Gideros on Wikipedia?

BJG

I can't see an entry for Gideros on Wikipedia, unlike Corona, Moai, Unity. (Just a thought.)

thanhquan1512

Omg, let's create one I will contribute on it. I can not start since my English grammar is really bad

gorkem

I created once and it was rejected:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Gideros_Studio

I'll try to write it again so it conforms wikipedia rules. Any help is welcome.

techdojo

I actually followed the Gideros Wikipedia link from Atilim's sig and made some edits (basically adding a subnote about it being a "kick ass - multiplatform lua development environment for iOS / Android"). A week later when I visited a page on Wikipedia I got a nice little message saying that my edits had been undone as they weren't cited with proper references or inkeeping with some such or other

*slapped wrist*

BJG

OK, cool, we can work on that page for a while and then resubmit. It's a great start, but there's probably a fair bit more we can add now.

Scouser

Having compared the article with the one for Corona, to be honest I think the reviewers seem to be a little inconsistent.

Both pages are similar in layout and content so to say one looks like an advertisement and the other not is just plain wrong.

Having said that, there are a few errors that I noticed with text missing, spelling and grammar mistakes.

BJG

I'm going to start messing around with it, if that's OK with everyone, to try and get it looking a bit more like the Moai/Corona ones. If we keep it fairly straightforward and technical at first to get it accepted, we can always jazz it up later. Facts and figures go down well. And bamboozle them with science.

gorkem

@bjg more than OK! Thanks a lot! That was something I wasn't able to achieve - first they said "no notable references" and then "looks like advertising" - I edited it several times with no luck, maybe I'm a bit biased

OZApps

There are two references that are on Wikipedia and list Gideros Studio as a Game SDK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_application_development
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_game_engines

Apart from creating the details on the Gideros Studio page. You can also add that it has been covered in the book "Learn Lua for iOS Game Development" , so that adds more info to the page.

OZApps

as they say Reliable Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRS

Learn Lua for iOS Game Development published by Apress ISBN:9781430246626 is a reliable source in this case.

Platypus

Guys,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gideros_Studio
Calling for backup.

Platypus

Guys, if you have an opinion on this, please let your voice be heard on the following page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gideros_Studio

Please remember never to type anything angry or abusive (Heck knows - it's fricken TEMPTING!), even though the situation is extremely frustrating. The battle can only be won with sense and reason. Please help if you can.

ar2rsawseen

Just wanted to add, that it actually should be Gideros Mobile.
Gideros Studio is just an IDE

Platypus

The most recent article in question is about the IDE, not the company.

Platypus

Arguably, a "Gideros Mobile" page, an "Atilim Cetin" page and a "Deniz Cetin" page also need to be created; but,... one step at a time. %%-

deniz

Some links:

http://www.webrazzi.com/2011/10/04/gideros-studio-roportaj/
http://www.webrazzi.com/2013/03/26/crate-smasher-oyun/
http://richardshepherd.com/deniz-asli-soykurum-cetin-gideros-mobile/
http://karnakgames.com/wp/gideros-svg-level-builder/

atilim

If possible, can we create a page like "Gideros (game development environment)" or something like it instead of "Gideros Studio"? Because with the new web page, we'll change the name of the product as "Gideros" and refer "Gideros Studio" only as IDE.

Maybe creating a new wikipedia page from scratch and providing good links prevents deletion of it?

deniz

And thanks for all the efforts. I think you are amazing.

gorkem

Did you see my previous Gideros Studio article on Wikipedia? I think you can take it as a base, instead of starting from scratch. It already includes some valuable, and some outdated (but easy-to-update) information.

BJG

(Hmm, yeah, I'd edited it down fairly ruthlessly to make the thing factual and objective with as many sources as possible, but it still got bounced as advertorial by some ass who evidently copied the previous judgement without taking the trouble to review it properly and form an objective opinion. Oh well. It probably needs more media coverage before they'll accept it, but it'll happen in time.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Gideros_Studio

Platypus

Good evening, delightful, inclusive, friendly, hospitable people.

I just got home from a long day at work and was so happy to read Deniz's comment. That has made my day. Thank you very much, Deniz.

I will definitely not be looking at the 'paedia tonight. I want to relaaaax (not get so agitated that I can't sleep, like I did last night).

@Ar2rsawseen, I just reread my reply to you (above) and it sounds curt. I really hope you didn't take it that way. I'm sorry, man. Please forgive my lack of tact.

@Deniz, thank you very much for the links and for your very kind words. They are really appreciated. Your product is excellent and deserves the recognition it is gaining.

@Atilim, naturally the above praise is for you too. Thank you for exerting so much effort to make a great, integrated application development environment. Gideros is wonderful. I am so glad I found it.

Regarding the name "Gideros": O.K. Understood.

@Gorkem & @BJG, yeah, I saw your article afterwards. It is excellent. WHAT A WASTE for it to be hidden from public view.

Regarding

"copied the previous judgement without taking the trouble to review it properly and form an objective opinion." :

I completely agree. That is exactly what happened again this time.

Oh well.
We've all got far more important things to spend our precious time on, so those fools can just go...








...away.


Goodnight, champs.

Platypus

ar2rsawseen

@Platypus that was the right correction from your side, and completely was not offending

Platypus

@ar2rsawseen,
Thanks, man.

phongtt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gideros_Studio <= deleted

ar2rsawseen

It seems the only way to get into Wikipedia is to have a friend, who has a friend, who is an editor there

phongtt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_(software_development_kit)

"This article appears to be written like an advertisement. Please help improve it by rewriting promotional content from a neutral point of view and removing any inappropriate external links. (January 2012)"