Status update - What to expect, when you are expecting OpenGL ES 2.

moopf

@ar2rsawseen Congratulations on the masters. I never had the urge to continue onto a masters, I was already working professionally before I even went to do my degree (and worked pretty much full time all the way through that), and I was too eager just to get on with that once the degree finished. Never been sure whether that was the right or wrong decision to be honest, so well done for sticking to it and going for the burn

Now you must learn to bend and break the theory in the real world Sad, but true!

ar2rsawseen

Well I also don't know if it will only be for a personal achievement or actually mean something in the life, but I know that all sorts of awesome things happened during those years in University that shaped me the way I am today
@moopf
But I actually in the last semester, I was feeling kind of similar to what you describe

Scouser

CongoRatz on your graduation =D> from an old timer without a coffee bitch (

techdojo

@Scouser I told you, you need to whip Frenchie a bit more - your obviously getting lax with the staff these days!

phongtt

@atilim how about LuaJIT? Will it make it on Next release?

Up!

ar2rsawseen

@phongtt let us handle all the current problems, recoup and get back to you guys on that

Scouser

@techdojo: As you know, it's best not to antagonize the Frenchman or he will just go on a rant and then sulk for a few days and we'll get no sense out of him. )

techdojo

@Scouser - but I thought that was part of the fun, oh how I miss our daily game of "wind up the frenchie" )

ar2rsawseen

Thought would start teasing you guys
http://docs.giderosmobile.com/developer-preview/new

Shaders coming

SinisterSoft

Downloading the preview now.

atilim

Also here is a video that demonstrates RenderTargets and Shaders at the same time:

atilim

And here https://github.com/gideros/Bird-Animation-2 is the source code of the video above.

We'll publish a blog announcement soon about details and future plans.

hgvyas123

video looks cool and it looks like i have to go back in 90's ( time travel ? ) and learn shader language

ar2rsawseen

And first developer preview version with shaders here:
http://giderosmobile.com/labs/gideros

yes the main way will be using glsl language, but with time, maybe will try to provide some basic template like, ready to use, and more or less customizable effects

zoolax

amazing.
@atilim and @ar2rsawseen
Any online tutorials or book would you recommend for a quick review or start on
glsl shader language?
Thanks

OZApps

@Zoolax, try

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=lGpP6OpZxLkC
http://books.google.com.au/books/about/OpenGL_4_0_Shading_Language_Cookbook.html?id=Zd2fwnMDvP0C&redir_esc=y

Amongst other options, you can also try the NeHe tutorials, it might have something about OpenGL and Shaders.

zoolax

@Zoolax, try

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=lGpP6OpZxLkC
http://books.google.com.au/books/about/OpenGL_4_0_Shading_Language_Cookbook.html?id=Zd2fwnMDvP0C&redir_esc=y

Amongst other options, you can also try the NeHe tutorials, it might have something about OpenGL and Shaders.

Thanks,I found some online tutorials with CPP + gl open,very much appreciated:)
I check these out.

ar2rsawseen

Probably will be also some tutorials and examples on our side, once we figure out all the quirks and determine if the solid api

hgvyas123

yeah tutorials will definitely needed

SinisterSoft

I think this is for OpenGL ES2 'glsl':

http://www.khronos.org/files/opengles_shading_language.pdf

http://www.khronos.org/registry/gles/specs/2.0/GLSL_ES_Specification_1.0.17.pdf

SinisterSoft

Do you know the version of GLSL that is in OpenGL ES 2.0, is it the same as the gssl in OpenGL 2 or OpenGL 3? It's unclear from this Wikipedia entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opengl_es#OpenGL.C2.A0ES.C2.A02.0

atilim

@SinisterSoft It's mostly like OpenGL 2's shading language but doesn't contains most of the build-in uniforms and vertex variables.

I can recommend http://www.khronos.org/registry/gles/specs/2.0/GLSL_ES_Specification_1.0.17.pdf (as you've posted) and http://www.amazon.com/OpenGL-ES-2-0-Programming-Guide/dp/0321502795/

ar2rsawseen

Here is a great explanation of basics for cocos2d frameworks, so it will be even a little easier in Gideros
http://www.raywenderlich.com/10862/how-to-create-cool-effects-with-custom-shaders-in-opengl-es-2-0-and-cocos2d-2-x

SinisterSoft

Thanks for that info you two. Plenty of reading for me.

SinisterSoft

Found this, pretty good as a primer: http://www.freescale.com/files/dsp/doc/app_note/AN3994.pdf

keszegh

now that the new version is in labs (an alpha), do you have any guess/expectation when the next version will be released?
also, can you tell me if native json will be included in the next release?
finally, do you have even a long term guess about windows support?
thanks

ar2rsawseen

Currently I think our todo list for one more pre Gideros 2.0 version is almost empty, and probably somewhere next week there will be an update (which will also include native json)
After that we will completely dive into Gideros 2.0

keszegh

thanks, i think gideros 2 will be great.

MobAmuse

Can't wait for 2.0. Just got iPhone 5S to test on and can't build latest gideros player for it at it all - loads of errors regards base sdk; or if you change that to say iOS6.0, you get arm7s architecture warnings etc.

keszegh

There is recently some talk about png/jpg whatever export from an app. When this becomes available will it be possible (or is it already now i just forgot/missed) also to load (these exported and other) pngs not in the list of resources?
a possible case i'm wondering about:
player can import his photo as an avatar, then he can make simple adjustments to it, e.g., put some additional sprites on it etc. then i want to rendertotexture this and save this image to some png and load it automatically whenever he uses the app.
Will these all be possible with gideros 2.0?
thanks