Clash of the clans

OZApps

Finally after such a long time, because my MBP stopped charging and to save myself from my withdrawal symptoms of being unable to use the Laptop, I gave in and tried Clash of the clans. finally after hearing so much about it.

It is nice and polished, if anyone has played CnC games like RedAlert and it's variants then this is similar, collect resources, build armies and fight. The only difference is that every time you fight, you lose all of your armies that were deployed. Plus the armies deployed attack based on their own AI rather than where you want them, so rather than attack the defenses they go for the main buildings. Plus like any of the he online games, the resources are not queued.

It would be fun to make something like this without online play using Gideros if some members are interested. It would be a nice collaborative project.

Just a thought.

ar2rsawseen

Should we make an online global game jam?
I have no problem with coding, graphical assets is what bothers me the most

Mells

Graphical assets would not be that much of an issue however I am already missing a few hours in my days!

tkhnoman

@Mells : That means it's an issue. lol.

Well, it depends on how it would concentrate on, if it's aesthetic, then surely it would be the big problem.

OZApps

If it turns out bad (graphically) it could serve as sample code and open sourced, if it turns out graphically wonderful, then it could be placed on the store and ads, monetization, etc be added to the same.

If it fails or succeeds either ways it should be a fun experience, if it lasts through without fall outs

gianmichele

I would probably not have the time to participate, however, I think it could be a great idea for a collaborative/educational project on github, so that people could learn from it

Mells

@tkhnoman basically... yes
It's not an issue in an ideal world within ideal conditions.

tkhnoman

Well, we are all game developer. I guess if everyone here asked "Do you have time to do something like this?" I can guarantee they would say no.
I myself, would say i don't have time. But if the project itself somehow get started and rolled on, i might throw myself in if i interested, and probably others too.

At least, we need prototype, or just a gameflow first, so we can understand what it is gonna be. (Because it's just feels weird, when you said Clash of Clan offline, most of fun factor is gone.)
And of course, we need some kind of project leader.

MikeHart

Great idea @OZApps. If you still need someone to create graphics (2D and 3D) for it, then I am willing to join.

ar2rsawseen

Then I will try out playing clash of clans to see how is it going

Mells

@ar2rsawseen
I have never installed Clash of Clans/Candy Crush and any other games of that kind.
Too afraid of becoming addicted :O

hgvyas123

@ar2rsawseen
I have never installed Clash of Clans/Candy Crush and any other games of that kind.
Too afraid of becoming addicted :O

already addicted to clash of clans playing since month and on level 34 currently too good game @ar2sawseen i highly recommend you to not even look at that game

ar2rsawseen

true, I made a mistake trying plants versus zombies 2 recently.

So are we agreed on the topic? Clash of clans like game, with our own additions and stuff?

atilim

I'm also in

ar2rsawseen

And if we agree on the game style, we would need (probably the more artistic ones) to come up with a theme (the feel, the aesthetics, the emotions), then define actions of what can be done in the game, and then define engagement loops.

ArtLeeApps

I'm currently "hooked" on Dungeon Keeper for android.. i used to love the original DK1 &2.... damn addiction @-) @Mells, im not into Candy Crush either lol

If there is anything i could help with... being a mail run gopher, spell checking, testing, supplying donuts and latte's let me know...

MikeHart

A project like this needs a more structured place than this single topic to hold all the conversions, infos and such. Sometimes we will need polls, we will need different topics on Art, Sound, AI, Interface, etc.

But first I would like to know in which theme/time/Period the game should take place.

Will it be historical, fantasy, Sci-Fi? If historical, which episode?

I would rather go for either Sci-Fi or Fantasy. Both themes are completely open to any design we choose. There is nothing that can't be done.

ar2rsawseen

Sure, what do you want to go for with project management?
https://trello.com/
https://asana.com/
or
https://plan.io/
https://podio.com/

MikeHart

Never used such things before for a community project. Always did it on a sub forum back then. Do you have any experience with this?

ar2rsawseen

yes we tried a lots of tools to manage the game projects
.
We can use github for code and issues
Trello for categorizing and to do list
Forum thread for communication

planio and podio which could handle whole project management, have limitations to team quantities for free plans, so most probably that won't cut

MikeHart

Your suggestion sounds good to me. What do the others think?

btw. Does Gideros Tilemap rendering support isometric maps these days?

talis

I am not so much experienced in game programming but published 5 business applications with gideros. I would like to help in every aspect that i can help in this project, really great know-how and perfect opportunity

I am open to all jobs, translating, debugging, testing, coding, story creation, brainstorming etc...

Count me in :ar!

ar2rsawseen

I've talked with my wife and basically got bad feedback on Clash of Clans
She said she got boring too quickly, all the actions are the same and that it might not be worth making such exact game.
Also it might be too huge for a first community project
and for long processes as building there would be a need for backend servers for time syncing, etc (or else players can simply change clock on the phone)
So maybe we could try something else?
Or everyone is up to it?

hgvyas123

agree too huge project

OZApps

@ar2rsawseen,
Break it down, it has a couple of things,

1. Resource gathering - this gets funds which are used to buy units, upgrades, etc
2. City building - this is the collection of the buildings that you can build to get your city/powerful.
3. Unit building - units are of different types that can help defend, build, etc
4. Supremacy - fight others and prove your supremacy or test your units and defenses.

Upgrades, etc can take long times, these can be sped up using premium in-game currency.

COC has an added feature that is locating a similar clan that you can fight, adding to the online part( something that I am not very pleased about)

Have you played Starcraft, supreme commander, red alert, TiberianSun etc? These are classic examples of these types of games. They also have quick matches, head-on contests, etc.

It is strange how the thread goes fm positive to negative, where some members start with, YES and then it reaches, NO I cannot manage it, back to YES ( which is good ).

It is not exactly an easy task nor is it a very difficult one, red alert was written in VB, so figure. The part that will become a bit of an issue will be the sheer number of people and what they can or will and when they do.

GitHub USA. Good idea if we. Agree to make this an open source project, so a few questions are would this be an open source or closed source project, then do ewe limit the initial number of people that work on this and their roles, etc.

First we need to scope out what are the features that we want to have in this, defining what we will have and what we will alter and how.

OZApps

true, I made a mistake trying plants versus zombies 2 recently.

So are we agreed on the topic? Clash of clans like game, with our own additions and stuff?

PvZ2 is fun but then it gets repetitive after a while. The graphics are what take the game to the next level of wow!

MikeHart

Yes, even a community project requires stamina, patients and will power to stay on it and keep working on it. Because it is just for fun.

ar2rsawseen

@OZApps you keep describing those games, but all I could read is Dune 2, if we are making Dune 2 alike game, I'm definitely for it

talis

What about some game like Vampire's Fall ;
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.KrimeMedia.VampiresFall&hl=en

In this game there is single player quest and there is also multiplayer where you can fight with another players with a match engine.

Like diablo there are large variaty of armors,weapons and potions.

I played and finished it and still playing time to time in multiplayer mode. ( I confess when i was in toilet usually )

Note: This is their official website.
http://vampiresfall.com/

OZApps

@OZApps you keep describing those games, but all I could read is Dune 2, if we are making Dune 2 alike game, I'm definitely for it

Yep, dune was one of these type of games.

OZApps

@ar2rsawseen, here's a link to ra2 on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_&_Conquer:_Red_Alert_2 and here is the official link to CnC games http://www.commandandconquer.com/en

The only difference is that it turned from 2.5d to 3d with generals.