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an application that turns on the siren when an enemy plane approaches the city

hello guys, I'm still alive, I injured my leg, I'm being treated now.
the government of Ukraine has made a good program that signals people when to hide in a bomb shelter.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ukrainealarm&hl=en_US&gl=US
https://apps.apple.com/ua/app/повітряна-тривога/id1611955391

I have a question -can you somehow trace where it gets data, and then make similar software based on gideros only with additional features?

my games:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=razorback456
мій блог по гідерос https://simartinfo.blogspot.com
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  • keszeghkeszegh Member
    good to hear that you are (relatively) well.

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  • SinisterSoftSinisterSoft Maintainer
    Glad to hear you are alive. Stay safe. :)

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    Coder, video game industry veteran (since the '80s, ❤'s assembler), arrested - never convicted hacker (in the '90s), dad of five, he/him (if that even matters!).
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  • PaulHPaulH Member
    I'd be happy to help with an app like that if someone can find the data source. I wouldn't be surprised if it's heavily encrypted, though. If there's a web site where the government is posting air raid data in real time, one could certainly build an app to monitor that and trigger alarms. I see people reviewing the existing app are asking for control over the alarm volume and the option to monitor multiple locations, which makes sense. Perhaps they'll add those features to the current app.

    Sorry to hear about the injury... How's your leg?
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  • olegoleg Member
    edited March 11
    PaulH said:

    I'd be happy to help with an app like that if someone can find the data source. I wouldn't be surprised if it's heavily encrypted, though. If there's a web site where the government is posting air raid data in real time, one could certainly build an app to monitor that and trigger alarms. I see people reviewing the existing app are asking for control over the alarm volume and the option to monitor multiple locations, which makes sense. Perhaps they'll add those features to the current app.

    Sorry to hear about the injury... How's your leg?

    The site does not have, in large cities there are telegram channels that transmit via telegram. but in small towns and villages the air alarm is activated only through loudspeakers on the street and through this application on the phone.

    I think that you can install an Android emulator on your computer, and track what data is sent, for example, by the program 'Wireshark'

    I unfortunately can't do it technically right now

    I think there should be no encryption, in my opinion the program just reads the city code every 5 seconds and the status is alarm or not.
    but I think that the authorities do not publish the address of the site - because they are afraid of DDos attacks from Russia

    **if any of the Russians read my words on this forum -I warn if you interfere with the life-saving system -you will be wanted by the whole world -you will not hide


    with the leg nothing serious, just inflammation of the joints from hypothermia. My age and my old injuries make themselves felt. For several days I could not walk, now I can move with a crutch.
    my games:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=razorback456
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  • olegoleg Member
    there are public sites that show air alarms in all cities at once - I think you can take data from there.

    -just for information.

    https://alarmmap.online/
    https://war.ukrzen.in.ua/alerts/
    https://vadimklimenko.com/map/

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    my games:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=razorback456
    мій блог по гідерос https://simartinfo.blogspot.com
    Слава Україні!
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  • PaulHPaulH Member
    I've thought about this a lot, and there are concerns that have kept me from trying to build this app. There are some possible technical hurdles, but my biggest concern the consequences of any potential problems. Besides the risk of bugs in the app, the app could fail to sound an alarm if the data source it relied on changed in some way. I've had a feature in an app of mine stop working when an API it used changed its interface, but that only meant users planning a fishing excursion had to use a different app to see the weather forecast. In this case, since there's an existing app that can be trusted (even if it's missing some desirable features) I'd hate to put out an alternate app in which problems, some potentially beyond the control of the app's own code, could cost lives.

    I'd very much like to help in some way, but the last thing I'd want to do is develop something that might unknowingly make people less safe.

    Paul
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  • olegoleg Member
    PaulH said:

    I've thought about this a lot, and there are concerns that have kept me from trying to build this app. There are some possible technical hurdles, but my biggest concern the consequences of any potential problems. Besides the risk of bugs in the app, the app could fail to sound an alarm if the data source it relied on changed in some way. I've had a feature in an app of mine stop working when an API it used changed its interface, but that only meant users planning a fishing excursion had to use a different app to see the weather forecast. In this case, since there's an existing app that can be trusted (even if it's missing some desirable features) I'd hate to put out an alternate app in which problems, some potentially beyond the control of the app's own code, could cost lives.

    I'd very much like to help in some way, but the last thing I'd want to do is develop something that might unknowingly make people less safe.

    Paul

    I have slightly different goals. I did not plan to replace the official program. - On the phone in the background can run several programs. I planned to do additional features.

    for example, the official program allows you to turn on only one region, and there are people who live on the border between two regions -and therefore there is a need to choose the alarm for several regions at once.

    It is also often the case that the alarm coverage area is very large and very inaccurate - and people sit in shelter for 70 hours. - I have an idea to calculate the approximate time of the missile's approach to each region. well, there are many other ideas.

    now I do it partly by scripts in the browser - and then I plan to dump this information in the telegram channel. - Well, as an experiment.

    but the official alarm program on the phone works in parallel, also in most cities there are official telegram channels to which alerts come, also the siren is turned on outside through loudspeakers, and also on all emergency radio frequencies and television there is also a warning.

    warning system is quite good against cruise missiles and against aircraft, we have many victims of missiles hail system - the system does not have time to warn about them. - The government tried to negotiate with Israel to acquire their system of protection against hail - but the Israeli government is completely on Putin's side.

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  • olegoleg Member
    edited April 26
    that is, in principle, I have already figured it out myself, and will try to bring down such a program. Thanks for trying to help. If someone has quality interesting ideas -on the functionality of such programs -write. I learned that a similar program also works to prevent earthquakes. so I think it is possible to make a universal program in which you can choose - the data source and adapt for any country in the future ..

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    мій блог по гідерос https://simartinfo.blogspot.com
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  • YanYan Member
    edited March 31
    We are about programming here.

    (Post moderated by an admin)

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  • hgy29hgy29 Maintainer
    Sorry @oleg, I had to delete your recent post, I don't want another war to be started here ;). Whatever you feel about Russians, and although I am 100% against this war, that doesn't mean every Russian is to blame, there are "for" and "against" on each side.

    Stay safe!
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  • hgy29hgy29 Maintainer
    Yes, this thread is going way off topic (of Gideros) and against the forum rules. I closed it and will delete latests posts later to only keep Gideros related stuff.

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  • hgy29hgy29 Maintainer
    Whole thread cleaned up and reopened.
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  • talistalis Guru
    edited April 14
    @oleg understand this please, this is a programming forum not a discussion place for politics, religion, war and so on. In every forum i have been it is forbidden to talk politics, religion and those kinds of sensitive things.

    After saying this one now my thoughts:
    I totally understand your case, people are dying, innocent people are dying because of war and Russian invasion, and it is your country. If we are sensitive you are 10 times more sensitive. I, as a Turkish citizen really sorry for your country. Hope everything will be ok soon and no more innocent lives will be lost and peace will come again. No need for me to say that i am against war.

    But, don't post here pictures of war or anything about war again. Your program idea was good and whoever wanted to help already wrote, whoever can not also wrote their ideas and so on, nothing was wrong about it, but posting other than those things are not ok according to me. You can create a skype, telegram ,WhatsApp group or any other place which suits you and whoever interested can join there. These things can be shared or talked over how much you want but not in this programming forum.

    I am a Turkish citizen and Muslim also. Let me also post the pictures of Palestine/Israel war which started long ago Russian invasion, how they killed innocent people there, tortured and so on and still continuing...and then someone from Syria will post how ISIS killing people there and decapitating ones who are not thinking like them...or PKK terrorist who have killed more than 30 thousand people in my country...or someone from Afghanistan...this will continue forever.


    My final word is, i will delete your next post if it will be anything inconvenient.
    (About war, death people, killed people, tortured and so on...)
    I expect from you to delete everything that you posted about war except your programming idea about missile siren program.

    Thank you very much for your understanding.

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  • olegoleg Member
    you can move this topic to another topic. I WAS A LITTLE WRONG WITH THE CHAPTER. As for all your other words, you are absolutely wrong.
    my games:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=razorback456
    мій блог по гідерос https://simartinfo.blogspot.com
    Слава Україні!
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