Gideros Update 2015.06.30

hgy29 · July 2015

Ah yes, it looks like the template uses libs bundled with Visual Studio 2013 (v120), and that VS2015 uses newer ones (v140). Did you try 'retargeting' as the Error message says ?

jdbc · July 2015

Ah yes, it looks like the template uses libs bundled with Visual Studio 2013 (v120), and that VS2015 uses newer ones (v140). Did you try 'retargeting' as the Error message says ?

Yes, but same error. I am downloading Visual Studio 2013 Community.

I have several games to submit to Windows Store :-)

SinisterSoft · July 2015

On a Windows PC with a Retina screen and a different DPI than normal the editor is slightly messed up.

Also the toolbar is very small. Once screens get higher resolution it will be impossible to click on an icon unless it's fixed.

totebo · July 2015

Wow, Liquidfun! How do I start playing with it?

hgy29 · July 2015

@totebo, look at the Particles demo for a quick example, then look at official liquidfun doc for options.
http://google.github.io/liquidfun/Programmers-Guide/html/md__chapter11__particles.html

tkhnoman · July 2015

Hmm... Didn't know that export is now included.

So yeah, I tried it just now, but it still have io.open bug on Windows Desktop Export, which make it unusable.

billydb · July 2015

Great work core team! Thank you so much for the winRT export.

However

Tried my project on a lumia 720 and performance is really bad.

Could just be my code but one thing that was really strange was removing all textFields from the level select scene (i'm using scene manager) fixed the framerate dropping from 55ish to 27fps. Tried removing all textFields from the game in hopes it would fix the framerate across the board but apparently not.

Still I live in hope my game will run well on windows phones and that this is various fixes that are planned, or is it peoples experience so far that there shouldn't be such a big difference between android/ iPhone and winRt?

hgy29 · July 2015

@billydb, I too felt like WinRT phones are somewhat slower than android or iOS. Is it due to DirectX ? Lua ? somehting else from microsoft OS ? Hard to tell right now, however there are still a few things that we are investigating to get better performance: luajit on windows phones, vertex buffer cachings (both WinRT and other platforms too), etc

jdbc · July 2015

How must I install SQLite WP in Visual Studio 2013?

hgy29 · July 2015

@jdbc, you can do this from Vsiual studio 2013: go to the extension manager (somewhere in the menu, under tools or something like that), then choose extensions from the internet and search for SQLite for WP8.

john26 · July 2015

@jdbc: Please see here for instructions on how to add SQLite:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2743cv3xopy7iod/winrt.rtf?dl=0

(see second section)

john26 · July 2015

@billydb: Yes, we have noticed apps run slower in WP8 than Android/iOS with equivalent hardware. It does seem DirectX is slower than OpenGL which is disappointing. We have made some strides in improving speed but still not bridged the gap. One thing you can try is use application:setFps(-60), or setFps(-30). This feature (only in WinRT) will try to maintain the frame rate by drawing fewer frames but more game logic updates. The game is playable but less smooth, I realise this is not really a solution to the problem but it might help. Worth a try!

The other thing we can do is LuaJIT which will certainly speed up the game logic side. But my hunch is the problem is really DirectX.

john26 · July 2015

Dear All,

I've noticed an error in 2015.06.30 when exporting for Windows 8 (Metro) apps. On some high res computers the game image will not fill the screen as they should. [The problem does not affect Windows Phone]. Basically it's a "retina display" issue. We've fixed the problem now and the fix will be in the next version.

So it might be better to hold off actually submitting to Windows Store till next version. If you do want to submit to Windows Store or have done already please contact me and I will give you details to do a quick fix of your existing Gideros installation.

SinisterSoft · July 2015

@billydb The text slowdown is really puzzling. Let's hope it's a clue as to what is making windows phone slower.

billydb · July 2015

thanks @john26 I will try the setFps(-60) this weekend and see. Hoping lumia 720 is the lower end of devices these days so it doesn't have to run completely smooth. @SinisterSoft I also got a huge slowdown when triggering the player moving, but that could be TNTparticles (he has a rocket attached) or perhaps box2d stuff as he's a set of dynamic objects. Or could just be directX. Textfield being an issue was a surprise though.

ar2rsawseen · July 2015

Do you use TextField with TTFont or Bitmap font?
If TTF, then do you cache the characters?
http://docs.giderosmobile.com/reference/gideros/TTFont/new#TTFont.new
third parameter

john26 · July 2015

@billydb: are you using the Gideros Windows Phone player or exporting an app?

Kellog · July 2015

Hi,

On the Mac desktop export, unless I've missed something, you can't resize the window and you can't enter full-screen mode.

I know you can set full-screen through the api, but surely you'd want to offer the option via the window maximise button?

Thanks,

Paul

billydb · July 2015

@ar2rsawseen actually both but the scene that had this problem was using an arial.ttf font. As a matter of fact its using your game template (which is awesome by thew way and thanks:)) and the framerate drop occurs when going from the pack select to level select screen.

@john26 i tested in both windows phone player and full exported app and they both had major framerate issues.

tkhnoman · July 2015

@Kellog
Actually, not having maximize and can't be resized are standard for game application, right?

I don't think it really necessary.

But the weird thing is that after you set full screen the game and de-fullscreen, that maximize button on titlebar became accessible.

A bug where application is not auto-scaled on MAC export also still exist, which made the fullscreen feature unusable.

Kellog · July 2015

@tkhnoman
> Actually, not having maximize and can't be resized are standard for game application, right?

Is it standard? I've just tried a bunch of games from the Mac Appstore and they all resize (maintaining the same aspect ratio) and the maximise works. They all look ok to me.

> I don't think it really necessary.

I think it is important for desktop because of the variety of screen resolutions.

The Gideros player resizes (but not with a fixed ratio) and maximises.

ar2rsawseen · July 2015

Sorry guys, I was mostly sick and did not do many updates on desktop export in this release

I remember the issues that are hanging in the github issues, if you want anything else to be added/fixed. Please add issue there, or comment on the similar issue to add to it

Kellog · July 2015

@ar2rsawseen

> Sorry guys, I was mostly sick and did not do many updates on desktop export in this release

Thanks. Nae bother. Hope you are better now.

mejon · July 2015

Should I install this update or update 2015.06.10? I got my computer working at OpenGL 2.1, so which update should I install?

ar2rsawseen · July 2015

I think the latest is always better, no?

tkhnoman · July 2015

@Kellog
Oh, yeah. You're right. I just tried it now and it seems have them.

I just think it behave the same with Windows. I guess MAC have their own type of behavior.

ar2rsawseen · July 2015

Most of the desktop stuff were fixed already and will be available in next version, just fyi

yubaro · July 2015

Please check this...Error in Mac OS X Desktop export. Work fine in Gideros Player, android and ios export.

classes/dataSaver.lua:41: attempt to index local 'file' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
	classes/dataSaver.lua:41: in function 'saveValue'
        ...

GiderosFan · July 2015

with the data saver class from ar2rsawseen all export works. Tested on Android, Ios, Windows, Mac and Windows Phone and Metro.

yubaro · July 2015

The export works fine. My export "MyGame.app" has this error when loading the game. Android(.apk) and IOS(.app) works well. You know why?

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