imGui bindings

keszegh · July 2018

so recently many people have tried to make gui's and it seems a waste of time to reinvent the wheel. I've found imGui https://github.com/ocornut/imgui and it seems pretty capable and it has lua bindings https://github.com/patrickriordan/imgui_lua_bindings, in particular for LOVE too https://github.com/slages/love-imgui, so i guess making bindings for Gideros would not be that hard (for an experienced person).
-what do you think?
-how many people would be interested?
-would there be somebody willing to do this?

antix · July 2018

Great minds think alike? I would love to see some windowsy GUI system in Gideros to enable it to make more businessy apps.

wxwidgets which has been upgraded by the author of ZeroBrane Studio to work with later Lua. This is the GUi system that ZBS uses too.

Crazy Eddies GUI System I really quite like this one because it has a visual GUI editor.

IUP Which looks good too.

If documentation was actually usable (I can't make any sense of what is available because I'm a dunce) I'd be making plugins already

antix · July 2018

It might be worth noting that I've created several GUI frameworks in Lua, one of which will be provided with my Gideros book, if I ever get it finished

keszegh · July 2018

being able to make my app look/work like zerobrane studio would be beyond my hopes.
i'm looking forward to see your gui library, hopefully you will share it on github too.

keszegh · July 2018

so yes, bindings to wxwidgets would be perfect too.

hgy29 · July 2018

it would be possible if the targetted widget engine was using opengl/directx as backend

keszegh · July 2018

none of the above (imgui, wxwidgets) is like this, @hgy29?

hgy29 · July 2018

not really checked, wxwidget isn't, but imgui seems to be VBO oriented, so a good candidate

SinisterSoft · July 2018

Maybe a crowdfund/kickstarter or special donation would be best for this kind of thing?

Apollo14 · July 2018

SinisterSoft said:
Maybe a crowdfund/kickstarter or special donation would be best for this kind of thing?

Let's crowdfund!
P. S. I think many giderians would love to crowdfund Spine support also (I was going to suggest it)

SinisterSoft · July 2018

I think that unless it's crowdfunded then it may take too much time away from the maintainers - don't forget currently it's been only @hgy29 adding everything and he also has a business to run and also needs to spend time with his family.

keszegh · July 2018

crowdfunding is a good idea, and of course let's see what is more important, maybe for a game lib Spine is more useful, i already have my own gui elements set up anyway (which i can't share as they are quite ugly coded and usable).

btw if imgui is added then how can one modify/extend it when working with gideros? i think it's likely that i will need something not directly in such gui libs, like a toggle button with custom graphics which has a left and right-click toggle bit as well (thus having 4 states).

antix · July 2018

@Apollo14 Spine is already supported in pure Lua (not native), the code just hasn't been updated for some time.

oleg · July 2018

@antix Deformation is not supported, but it does not make sense

I wanted to support DragonBonesPro, but the developers stopped going to the connection, and the project seems to have died ..

Apollo14 · July 2018

IMO full-featured Spine support should be crowdfunded asap.
Nowadays visual customizations are crucially important in almost every game genre. Without Spine it's pain in the butt and lots of unnecessary monkey coding (our life is too short to monkey-code every bone manually, if we're working on mid-size game).

Apk size is also bloated, because instead of just packing bones, we have to pack full spritesheets. Even engine like Unity will produce smaller apk size because of that.

antix said:
@Apollo14 Spine is already supported in pure Lua (not native), the code just hasn't been updated for some time.

Who can update it?

antix · July 2018

@Apollo14 I had a quick look and in theory it could be done by anyone with a little knowledge. It does look like a large job because their sdk for Lua is quite large though.

Apollo14 · August 2018

Let's crowdfund Spine

@SinisterSoft @hgy29 can you pls adapt Spine lua sdk for Gideros?

hgy29 · August 2018

Apollo14 said:
Let's crowdfund Spine
@SinisterSoft @hgy29 can you pls adapt Spine lua sdk for Gideros?

I think anyone here should be able to adapt lua sdk for spine to work with gideros, but if I had to do it, then I'd rather use the C++ version and make it a native plugin, that would run faster...

Apollo14 · August 2018

Let's crowdfund C++ Spine plugin!
Probably if funding reaches first goal, it should be Lua. If funding reaches next goal, it can be C++.

hgy29 · August 2018

benefit of going pure lua, is that there are no lua/C bindings to write

keszegh · August 2018

..and easier to extend for guys who are not into plugin writing (meaning most of us). i wonder how much speed penalty lua would mean.

hgy29 · August 2018

Note that I knownothing about spine myself (well I gathered that it is a bone animation system), so I am probably not the right guy for this task

oleg · August 2018

hgy29 said:
Note that I knownothing about spine myself (well I gathered that it is a bone animation system), so I am probably not the right guy for this task

Animation of bones is not important here
the main thing in Spine - Meshes & Paths

antix · August 2018

Anyhoo, to get back on topic.. GUI frameworks

Apollo14 · August 2018

antix said:
Anyhoo, to get back on topic.. GUI frameworks

@antix btw do you have 'Widget Candy' gui framework? It looks awesome after first look.

antix · August 2018

@Apollo14 yes I have Widget Candy. It is pretty good but the creators seem to have abandoned it and never answer emails (bug reports). I made my own similar GUI framework which wasn't as complete and am using that in some projects.

hgy29 · August 2018

About spine, I just had a look at their webpage and wow... that's expensive! If there was a crowdfunding about it, it would have to cover at least a PRO spine license cost, and well I would probably do it for free in exchange of a full featured lifetime license.

oleg · August 2018

dragonbones - does the same thing as spine and free
http://dragonbones.com/en/index.html

Apollo14 · August 2018

Spine is an industry standard, let's crowdfund!

P. S. OMG Corona will officially suck if we had Spine plugin via C++ (their stuff is based on spine-lua)

keszegh · August 2018

yes, Spine Pro is crazily expensive, i also prefer propagating open source software if there is one which is comparable.

oleg · August 2018

Apollo14 said:
Spine is an industry standard, let's crowdfund!

P. S. OMG Corona will officially suck if we had Spine plugin via C++ (their stuff is based on spine-lua)

dragonbones - Supports export to spine format

many artists make an animation in the DB and then export it to the spine for customers.

in the free version of spine -can open the exported file and check.

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