can anyone teach me how to debug with zerobrane studio?

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• keszegh Member

  November 2021 Accepted Answer

  i made this tutorial a while ago, it probably still works the same way:
  https://www.indiedb.com/tutorials/gideros-with-zerobrane
  
  at least i still use zbs for debugging and don't remember making any major changes.
  let me know if you succeed.

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• MoKaLux Member

  November 2021 edited November 2021 Accepted Answer

  if you are just starting I would stick with gideros studio instead and then if you don't like it you can use zbs
  The examples should work out of the box

  my growING GIDEROS github repositories: https://github.com/mokalux?tab=repositories

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• keszegh Member

  November 2021 Accepted Answer

  on the other hand if you manage to set up zbs then i think you will enjoy working with gideros even more.

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• luyimoon Member

  December 2021

  keszegh said:

  i made this tutorial a while ago, it probably still works the same way:
  
  
  at least i still use zbs for debugging and don't remember making any major changes.
  let me know if you succeed.

  
  thanks

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• luyimoon Member

  December 2021

  MoKaLux said:

  if you are just starting I would stick with gideros studio instead and then if you don't like it you can use zbs
  The examples should work out of the box

  ok

  keszegh said:

  i made this tutorial a while ago, it probably still works the same way:
  https://www.indiedb.com/tutorials/gideros-with-zerobrane
  
  at least i still use zbs for debugging and don't remember making any major changes.
  let me know if you succeed.

  it worked, thanks.
  
  1.copy "user-sample.lua", named "user.lua".
  
  
  
  2.change "path.gideros" from "user.lua".
  
  
  
  
  3.add "require("mobdebug").start()" in "mian.lua"
  
  
  

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• SinisterSoft Maintainer

  December 2021 Accepted Answer

  I personally would stick to Gideros Studio - as if/when we change over to our flavour of Luau I doubt that it will work properly with zerobrane (unless they update that too).

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• keszegh Member

  December 2021 edited December 2021

  SinisterSoft said:

  I personally would stick to Gideros Studio - as if/when we change over to our flavour of Luau I doubt that it will work properly with zerobrane (unless they update that too).

  that is an interesting point which would make me vote against luau whatever the advantages. working with zbs undoubtedly wins over these for me.
  if this luau urge is serious, then i can ask the creator of zbs if this can be managed.
  
  alas am i wrong to assume that as far as i stick to standard lua code, then zbs should still work fine without changes, even if gideros allows extended luau syntax?

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• luyimoon Member

  December 2021

  SinisterSoft said:

  I personally would stick to Gideros Studio - as if/when we change over to our flavour of Luau I doubt that it will work properly with zerobrane (unless they update that too).

  is this "luau"?
  
  
  

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• hgy29 Maintainer

  December 2021 edited December 2021 Accepted Answer

  As long as you only do code edition with zbs, then you’ll be safe with luau. But I am afraid mobdebug won’t work anymore

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• keszegh Member

  December 2021 Accepted Answer

  yes, that's it.

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• keszegh Member

  December 2021 Accepted Answer

  hgy29 said:

  As long as you only do code edition with zbs, then you’ll be safe with luau. But I am afraid mobdebug won’t work anymore

  debugging depends on mobdebug, so that will kill off the perhaps main advantage of zbs (besides that i'm just used to it, so it would be a pain to change it even if gideros studio would know everything that zbs knows).
  so why wouldn't mobdebug work?

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• hgy29 Maintainer

  December 2021 Accepted Answer

  See the set of changes here: https://luau-lang.org/compatibility
  I am trying to put back mandatory features of lua they removed, it shall be quite easy for typical API calls, but debug library heavily depends on internal lua state, which would have changed a lot in luau

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• keszegh Member

  December 2021 edited December 2021

  i see.
  then i'd be interested to know how serious is your urge to move to luau?
  i also don't know how much work is to update mobdebug to luau. in any case i made an issue on zbs github about this, just to see if the developer thinks if it is reasonable to add support for it.

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• hgy29 Maintainer

  December 2021

  Frankly I don't think moving to Luau is urgent, but it does bring interesting features: better performance (I'd like to know how much exactly) and gradual typing, for those I am interested in. Gradual typing, in particular, could help solve a few challenges I am facing while trying to improve Gideros.
  
  

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• keszegh Member

  December 2021

  hgy29 said:

  Frankly I don't think moving to Luau is urgent, but it does bring interesting features: better performance (I'd like to know how much exactly) and gradual typing, for those I am interested in. Gradual typing, in particular, could help solve a few challenges I am facing while trying to improve Gideros.
  
  

  yes, the advantages are clear, e.g. i'd also like if the editor could notice if i mistype the name of some variable. performance is also a bonus, of course.
  but the disadvantages are not yet clear to me, but now i see this one related to zbs debugging.

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• SinisterSoft Maintainer

  December 2021 edited December 2021

  The advantages I can see are performance - apparently it can be lots faster than regular Lua, gradual types, and maybe the future possibility of JIT performance. Plus the fact that a multi-million pound organisation is committed to it, making regular improvements.

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