Compatibility Library for C*SDK

OZApps · May 2012

If you are looking at GiderosStudio and want to retain all of your IP on the other framework, there is a solution, the Compatibility Library, add this to your project and run any C*SDK code. Do you remember the Bezier curves demo on C*SDK? Here's a video of that running on GiderosStudio without making any changes to the original code.

If you are interested, there will be an early bird special price for those that help and support this effort. let me know if you want to be one of the early adopters.

NOTE: This shall be distributed in bytecode format, so there will be no source code available when you buy this library.
This is currently mapped to use the display objects only. Get it and compile your apps off-line using xcode or Eclipse(Android build tools) and deploy your C*SDK apps on the ARMv6 device...

pixelknights · May 2012

Wow, this sounds super impressive indeed, will be keeping a close eye on compatibility reports for this one.

OZApps · May 2012

GiderosStudio does not have circles? Think again, with the compatibility layer, you now get Circles, Arcs, Filled Arcs and much more. To test, I have the sample code that visualises the shortest path, the code was by Bruce Martin and it works as is, the only change that had to be made to it was to change the last line of the code sample from dostop:addEventListener to stopit:addEventListener and since C*SDK works with a black background as default, the lines are all white, Gideros has a white background, so the default colour is set to black, so the code had to include a line:setColor(255,255,255) to make the lines white while drawing the polygon. Apart from that there was no change made to the code.

the video ->

how can you get this? You can make pre-orders for the compatibility layer via paypal and play with the ß version as it is being developed.

OZApps · May 2012

Wondered if you can draw Pacman in Gideros? It is very easy...
See the attached screenshot. THe code to make this is as simple as

local pacman = display.newArc(100,100,50,30,330,true)
pacman.strokeWidth=1
pacman:setStrokeColor(200,200,0,255)
pacman:setFillColor(255,255,0)
 
local i
for i=1,6 do
	local dot = display.newCircle(110+(i*30), 100,10)
	dot:setFillColor(200,200,200,200)
end

and ofcourse using the compatibility library

pixelknights · May 2012

Any idea on price yet??

OZApps · May 2012

Around $50-75 one time, no annual costs. In the coming week, I might have a first release version.

atilim · May 2012

@OZApps the video is great but the most important part is the last 0.2 secs

OZApps · May 2012

@Atilim, if you were considering what the app does(path finding), then it is the last 0.2 seconds, the idea of the video was that take C*SDK code and it works ... VOILA!! like that without any changes (literally)

dnhkng · May 2012

A search for "C*SDK" on google doesn't find much. Could you give us a link to the SDK?

evs · May 2012

Corona SDK

dnhkng · May 2012

This sounds very interesting! I have a whole app, coded in Corona, and it would be interesting to see how it runs on your SDK. How do I test the app with your solution?

ar2rsawseen · May 2012

I have a whole app, coded in Corona, and it would be interesting to see how it runs on your SDK.

@dnhkng probably faster

OZApps solution is crowdsourced, meaning it's not for free, but you can be an early adopter and get it for special price. Just contact OZApps for more info.

Garyk1968 · May 2012

Yep be useful to know what the compatibility covers.

OZApps · May 2012

@Gary, a detailed list of what works and what doesn't coming soon...

Am testing it to ensure that what I say works, actually works and the way it is meant to. Believe me GiderosStudio API's are so much cleaner to use.

Garyk1968 · May 2012

Thanks @OZApps I'm sure you will do a grand job!

OZApps · May 2012

Here's the progress so far in a document form ... #:-S

I should be able to open this up for ß testing in the coming week (if I can get a few things done over the weekend)

Those that want to test is can pay for the ß version and if they like it, can pay the differential (will get a discount for supporting the beta and keeping the pressure on) when the version is ready for release.

If there are some features that you want to see as part of the library, (that can be under the scope of what's available with GiderosStudio, not supporting any plug-ins) can be included.

Though I must say that using GiderosStudio natively is awesome, but then you can always support the effort and get the Compatibility Layer (codenamed Shandy, like the Beer + Lemonade Drink)

Details on what's there and whats not

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36546832/shandy.htm

SatheeshJM · May 2012

Holy Shit! I was just thinking the other day whether something like this would be possible and was undecided on whether to try such a thing.
(I'm still fond of them U see

and also I don't think I would ever have made much progress)

But this is just super-awesome!
Any updates on when this library would become live?

BTW @OZApps I never got my hands on the source code for the Original bezier curve.
Is there a link for it? Can you pm me?

OZApps · May 2012

@Satheesh, if you look up on the share your code section, you will find it there.

My other priorities put this back a bit. However, I shall be releasing a ß version next month, that can be used for testing by those that are interested. I will keep you on that list and let you know.

techdojo · May 2012

@OZapps love the name for framework, although Shandy is "watered down" beer and what your actually doing is making your "beer" code more potent - so maybe Snakebite would have been a better name (for those who don't know - Snakebite is a mix of beer (usually larger) and cider, and can't / wont be sold in lot of pub's in the UK as it's wickedly strong and would often turn normal mild mannered people, in to raving drunk beer monsters

*edit* maybe I should read my own sentences before posting - especially after drinking Snakebite!

OZApps · May 2012

@techdojo, I might be persuaded to rethink the name. However the idea was that in comparison to Gideros the beer is watered down.

techdojo · May 2012

Actually I meant to ask you about the *beer* widget's library. I'm actually looking into replicating most of the functionality using a native plugin (using Mike & Caroline's excellent code as a base) as I wanted to be able to expose as much of the Core Graphics stuff as possible, I can see a massive market for quickly developed native UI style apps, but I wanted to be able to use extra skin's etc to make them stand out.

OZApps · May 2012

That will be cool, I did not touch the widget library for the simple reason that they are slightly different between the iOS and the android. I agree that a good Native UI is required to help create business-y type apps.

Did you see Widget Candy, x-pressive.com has a wonderful library for widgets that are also skinable.

techdojo · May 2012

That's the problem with selling lua libraries, it's hard to stop some unscrupulous developers just taking the source apart, adapting it for their own needs and then releasing a new product :-\" :-\" :-\"

Not that I would ever condone such behaviour

OZApps · May 2012

yes that is true, therefore I had an article on how bytecode will restrict (upto an extent) for those that can decompile binary, bytecode is hardly a challenge. Still having a lock on your door will deter a casual burgler, if he wants to break in, then having the best security system also cannot stop them from breaking in.

techdojo · May 2012

What are your thoughts about widget candy? (also asked in the Wax thread - feel free to answer on either)

ondesic · July 2012

Would Widget Candy work with this lib?

kwiksher · August 2012

Hey Jay(OZApps), have you tested any Kwik made code with your library? Will it work with Director? I am studying ways to extend Kwik to Gideros and it would be something to consider.
Alex

OZApps · August 2012

Hi Alex,
I have not tested it with Kwik (could not afford to get PS5 or later

still stuck with PS4) However ti would be interesting to see, maybe if you send me some code that is generated using Kwik, I can test that. I did not focus on Director as it was 3rd party but if your reliance is on Director, can look into extending the support for that.

We can look into that and take this discussion offline by email.

john26 · August 2012

Hi there! congratulations on doing the Corona compatibility layer, I think it's a great idea (and no doubt an enormous effort!). Personally, I would recommend focusing on the Corona core before considering 3rd party apps.

Any ETA for this? Also, do you have a web link for the compatibility layer?

OZApps · August 2012

@john26 if you look into the message posted on 11th May, there is a link of what the state of the library was. Many of the things available with C*SDK is managed through the C (the language) API and is difficult to manage and at the same time users are more used to the dot notation rather than the object oriented approach used in Gideros.

The project had taken a backseat for a reason that would be appreciated by many (details will be revealed near the end of the year, but for now all I can say that Atilim is involved in this)

john26 · August 2012

Thanks for that. Sounds mysterious and intriguing! Reading between the lines of your message, I think we are looking at end of year at the earliest for the software?

I fully appreciate what a huge effort this must be. In fact it will be an ongoing effort as changes to Corona or Gideros will constantly break the compatibility.

In the meantime, I wonder if anyone has prepared a simple guide for those wishing to port by hand? Just advice like Corona X maps to Gideros Y would be helpful. I did a search but found nothing like this.

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